always CFC fighting to keep local in all these threads.

Not surprised.

Did not adress safety of carebearing in low or nullsec,

You mean these "high value rats" which don't really pay that much more than L4s, especially if you take into account time spent hiding from roaming gangs and having to replace lost ratting ships? Woooooooooow.

Din ding ding there's your problem get that big all alliance to pay people for.doing that.

Getting payed to do a gate camp? Yes please.

And talking about pay outs like these alliance can't afford to pay there scouts they afford to pay ever other people.

U really are a troll. That post proves it.

I'm sorry where we talking about gate camps? Did u know some people think sitting at a gate waiting to shoot.people is.fun.

Go take a.trip past the low-null gates I'm 100% sure there will be a camp there.

I thought Nullsec was already more profitable than W-space? If that's not the case, then why are we even having this conversation? Besides, it's not like all of the money is only made from running sites and ganking at gates or what not. Is making isk in nullsec really that hard? If you can't cut it and make a profit even when running with groups and doing the things that need to be done to survive such as running d-scans, staying aligned, scouting out, etc, etc... Then you don't need to be in nullsec in the first place. You are not ready for it yet.

[quote=EI Digin][quote=Kenneth O'Hara]
Besides, I thought we played this game to have fun? Not run slave corps and login to go to work just to make the almighty ISK!
I just worked 10 hours and I don't want to login to "work" to just make isk. I want to come home from work and play to have fun. This second concept seems to elude everyone here on this thread.

You making a claim as to what everyone "would do" is nothing more than a far-fetched assumption.

But, I'm not going from false assumptions.

I[...]talk to other more experienced players in areas I am not familiar with.

So go make money wherever you can. Make in Null, Make inHi, Make in WH.

PvP in null is basically dead, Catch pipe and Curse pipe are the only places anything happens.

And why is that? You're CCP Soundwave's alt and you're going to take away the local member list?

I like the fact its the same 3 people defending local.

Clearly there forever alone.

heh IRC having pets

However, the difference between you and me is that I don't outright accuse people of **** until I have evidence.

No I am saying that they probably would not care less about the isk if all they had to do was stuff up a few towers and watch the isk roll in.

But we know this will never happen, CCP only givens handouts like that to Null secers

The requirement of gates should go too, letting all ships dial in a warp from system to system. I remember a time when people in low and null would have loved these ideas,

Nullsec is depopulated because of your gate camps

Why complain about having to use scouts if locals removed and u all ready use them

So you mean you won't have huge warning that you are about to be ganked?

Because every ship in eve is a cloaky.

I don't like this thread. I keep feeling compelled to like the posts of a sworn enemy.
What's come over me?!

Well thankfully for you CCP has the answer as they are attempting to make PvP and PvE so similar you use the same ship.

Or they just don't want the same crap that has turned Null into an empty waste land.

The only differences between WHs and null is

Sov - witch u need blobs for grinding structures.

Gates.

Besides that there the same.

Yes you can make crazy WH money, it is easy turn of all the Moon mining POS's in NULL and you will get close to crazy WH money as you cannot moon mine in a WH.

Lol I never seen a dread blap a balg and I have attended over 70 wh evictions.
Try harder.

U have blob fights and the hot drop ganks.

Oh we have to turn on the miners on all our tech/R64s. High command should really be more on top of this ****.

Cloaked vessels, while able to hide more than their peers, will never be mainstays of combat.

For solo players? They were never supposed to operate with impunity in null sec, and without magical intel warnings, they will at LEAST need to pay attention to intel channels.

with postings at key gates being almost as important as direct gate camps for strategic use.

just more and better reasons to work and coordinate together.

[...]if the target is not alert enough to notice one ship, what difference would 5 more make?

Really? So they were safeing up from PvP based on the warnings from intel channels?

Tell that to the strategic gate camps that seem to be manned nonstop currently.

High Sec is a different type of gameplay.

I believe you underestimate the power defenders will have with no local. Attacking that lone mission runner or miner looks so safe... too bad that making traps gets a huge boost by this. You can have fleets hidden outside D-Scan range waiting to ambush....

Fixed that for you.

When enemies enter your system, you should expect a FIGHT, to DEFEND yourself. You shouldn't run and hide. Or at least, the game shouldn't reward you for running and hiding.

If you aren't man enough or capable enough to consistently scare off or fight off invaders, or to do so much as lift a finger to even know about an attack, then you don't deserve your own private nullsec system. Simple as that.

Directional scanners only work out to 14 AU. If your system has 3 entrances and is 50 AU in diameter, for instance, you would need half a dozen corp members online at all times doing NOTHING useful other than sitting aroud hitting d-scan all the time watching all the gates and the spaces in between where cynos might be fired up.

Leaving crucial gaps in security that would allow actual meaningful pvp and that would actually make nullsec, you know... dangerous and risky, like it is supposed to be.

(Edit: holy ****, this thread is 74 pages long? It looked like it stopped at 5 for some reason. Sorry if this doesn't add anything new or useful anymore.)

WHAAAA!!!! I WANT EASY MONEY WITH LESS RISK BECAUSE I LIVE IN NULL SEC AND THINK I'M SUPPOSED TO BE HANDED ISK ON A PLATTER!!!!! WHAAAA!!!!

Without, and without. Neither of those makes any sense to change, because then you'd just essentially have local chat again...

Doesn't work very well when your profitability is dependent on a system's sec status, now does it?

And about adding items of value to null, yea inflation can be off set by taxes in high sec.